"Is it ok for a pukhtun to marry non-pukhtun?"
As the pukhtun nationalism is its on hot lines after the flamming Kalabagh issue. There was this interesting topic caught me in a forum.
"Is it ok for a pukhtun to marry non-pukhtun?"
Most of the members were pukhtun and the views well were scared.
Here are some of the views:
Pakhtoon guys marrying non Pakhtoon girls, this results in their children speaking the language of their mother instead of Pukhto, thus Pukhto is dying. One should refrain from marrying a non pukhtun.
Some people talked about "Love". [Ignore them they are just crazy and blind, cant be bothered to flush their feelings]
"PUKHTUN SHOULD NEVER MARRY A NON PUKHTUN DAMIT DAMIT IN NO SITUATION. HE/SHE SOULD BE SHOT DOWN"
"Dude, you should be out on hunting Imran Khan."
Its ok for a pukhtun male to marry a non pukhtun girl but not the otherway around. Reson: Its just how it works.
"Warning: Mixed marriages can produce non-ethenic kids." [How true, I heared people saying, "I am pathan but I dont speak Pashto." Is it just about Pashto? Thats ok. Where is your Pukhtunwali?"
Personal Opinion..personal choices.. bla bla bla... [All that stuff, you know it and you must would have heared it before]
"So what about me? I met this indian girl and shes Pathan! "
A muslim can marry any muslim!
[Now this one is pretty "funny?"]
"Pukhtoon women marrying into non Pukhtoon families and especially into Punjabi families is rare however the rare cases can be attributed to the Indian movies and their influance on the young generation. I think these movies are doing more damage to our culture then those Pakistani freaks in Islamabad.The same is the case with gys they see someone walking on the street who looks like some famous Indian actress most likely that girl will not be a Pukhtoon because Pukhtoons have Aryan features and do not have anything common with the Indian race thus the flabergausted Dum ass Pukhtoon runs presumes him self to a part of an indian movie hero and tries his best to find an ugly duckling of Indian origin. " (Nangyalee).
[And this one]
"I know one pakhtoon his wife is white (angreaz) and they have 8 kids. :D" [Typical]
If you mix Milk with Alcahol - Its neither Milk nor Alcahol any more. And have you ever seen a donkey with a monkey?
I have seen non-pukhtun dont want to marry Pukhtun too for whatever reasons!
These days people look fer the profession of the guy..and as it is obvious our pakhtun boys arnt dat much interested in studies compared to the non- pakhtuns. So buckle up boys ;)
The whole idea of reproduction is to initroduce new genes to the already existing gene pool, to allow for more varied offspring.
My opinion:
It varies from person to person, family to family and tribe to tribe. And its a huge huge topic. But I dont want my kid saying, "I am half pukhtun, quater irish, a little bit of pakeha, traces of arab,...".
However a pukhtun male can marry a non pukhtun girl but not the other way around. Why? More on this later in edited version.
"Is it ok for a pukhtun to marry non-pukhtun?"
Most of the members were pukhtun and the views well were scared.
Here are some of the views:
Pakhtoon guys marrying non Pakhtoon girls, this results in their children speaking the language of their mother instead of Pukhto, thus Pukhto is dying. One should refrain from marrying a non pukhtun.
Some people talked about "Love". [Ignore them they are just crazy and blind, cant be bothered to flush their feelings]
"PUKHTUN SHOULD NEVER MARRY A NON PUKHTUN DAMIT DAMIT IN NO SITUATION. HE/SHE SOULD BE SHOT DOWN"
"Dude, you should be out on hunting Imran Khan."
Its ok for a pukhtun male to marry a non pukhtun girl but not the otherway around. Reson: Its just how it works.
"Warning: Mixed marriages can produce non-ethenic kids." [How true, I heared people saying, "I am pathan but I dont speak Pashto." Is it just about Pashto? Thats ok. Where is your Pukhtunwali?"
Personal Opinion..personal choices.. bla bla bla... [All that stuff, you know it and you must would have heared it before]
"So what about me? I met this indian girl and shes Pathan! "
A muslim can marry any muslim!
[Now this one is pretty "funny?"]
"Pukhtoon women marrying into non Pukhtoon families and especially into Punjabi families is rare however the rare cases can be attributed to the Indian movies and their influance on the young generation. I think these movies are doing more damage to our culture then those Pakistani freaks in Islamabad.The same is the case with gys they see someone walking on the street who looks like some famous Indian actress most likely that girl will not be a Pukhtoon because Pukhtoons have Aryan features and do not have anything common with the Indian race thus the flabergausted Dum ass Pukhtoon runs presumes him self to a part of an indian movie hero and tries his best to find an ugly duckling of Indian origin. " (Nangyalee).
[And this one]
"I know one pakhtoon his wife is white (angreaz) and they have 8 kids. :D" [Typical]
If you mix Milk with Alcahol - Its neither Milk nor Alcahol any more. And have you ever seen a donkey with a monkey?
I have seen non-pukhtun dont want to marry Pukhtun too for whatever reasons!
These days people look fer the profession of the guy..and as it is obvious our pakhtun boys arnt dat much interested in studies compared to the non- pakhtuns. So buckle up boys ;)
The whole idea of reproduction is to initroduce new genes to the already existing gene pool, to allow for more varied offspring.
My opinion:
It varies from person to person, family to family and tribe to tribe. And its a huge huge topic. But I dont want my kid saying, "I am half pukhtun, quater irish, a little bit of pakeha, traces of arab,...".
However a pukhtun male can marry a non pukhtun girl but not the other way around. Why? More on this later in edited version.
4 Comments:
I don't understand this.. we are in the era of globalization, still we are in trivial matters of bloodline. I mean defending culture and your religion is one thing and bloodline is another but still I respect personal choices.
As far as nationalism is concerned, I hate all the mullahs, feudals and politicians. Not every single person then most of them. They have done bera garak of Pakistan. Sab ko apne provinces aur apne benefits ki pari hai. Karachi University main students came and said to my friend that please yeh mithai khaa lein woh kalabagh naa banne ki khushi main.. how disgusting and shameful!! When Pakistan will progress, every province will surely get something positive.. jaahil qaum. And don't get me wrong I am not targetting everything in comments on paktuns but every paki, especially people in power.
So there you are confused, globalization is something completely different and is a marketting strategy that has very less to do with race or bloodline besides destruction. It is drivin by coorporate companines and Capitalist countries like America.
Bloodline is not a trivial matter, many races are vanished or are simply merged and dissolved. When there is no bloodline theres no culture no language and no nation as united, infact its a lost soul wondering where one belongs to. And that is why AllamaIqbal said, "Paiwasta reh shajar se umeed bahar rakh". It is nationalism that makes one to feel for their people and to fight for their people. And this is why when the "war against Terrorism" started they had to change the corps Commander to bomb waziristan.
And there is a lot behind the sences that is leading the resistance. Its not just a couple of people protesting against it, its three provinces. And the worst is by forcing one to accept and pointing fingers, "You shut up". This is not the way things are done in "democratic" countries and no one bombs their own country. Voilence is not the answer to any thing. Oh yes it does support more voilence, like how mullah's came to power in Pukhtunkhwa and Hammas in Palestine.
VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE SO CALLED 'MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS';
I was just reading another website about Pashtun men marrying non Pashtun women, but unfortunately I couldn't comment on that site.
Anyway, my point is this, no where in Islam does it explicitly say that a 'Muslim can marry any other Muslim'.
In Islam it is an essential requirement that a man/woman, marry their 'KUFU' or 'KAA'FFA'.
The word literally translates to 'suitability', or 'compatibility'.
Islam explicitly requires that a Muslim must marry their own Kufu; what considertions must be considered in determining ones Kufu, includes factors such as language, morals, ethics, traditions, values, caste and even ethnicity.
Ultimately therefore, ones culture is ones Kufu.
The consequence of this furthermore, is that I, as a Pashtun, am required, by Islam, to marry a Pashtana, and vice-versa.
The only way for a Muslim to marry a non-Kufu, is if there are legitimate reasons for doing so, and the result benefits in doing so, outweigh the negatives.
For instance if I am in a foreign country, where I cannot find my own Kufu, I can then marry a non-Kufu.
If however, there is a kufu within that country for me to marry, then Islam states that I must marry that person over and above any other person, even if that person may themselves be a Muslim.
The requirement was created so as to remove the strain put on either partner of having to adapt their lives and conduct to meet that of their new partners, or their new environment.
So, the 'Brothers, and Sisters', who talk so confidently about religion and how we should eradicate our identity and the native language that we speak, take a step back, and know what you are talking about, before you start talking.
THEREFORE IN ISLAM, A MUSLIM MUST IN EFFECT MARRY SOMEONE WHO IS OF THE SAME CULTURE AS THEM, SOMEONE WHO IS THEIR OWN KUFU.
My E-MAIL address is jzs2@le.ac.uk, so anyone who wants proof and references from Islam itself can e-mail me, so that I can confirm what I have just said through Islam references, instead of the typical bulls**t that people who have long beards, and prayer 5 times a day make up, and those that believe that they have the right to declare what Islam is.
P.S. long live Pashtunistan
JZS KHATTAK.
Can you state the Hadiths that specifically mention this. And of course you do realize that none of the wives of the Prophet(may peace be upon him) were from the same so called compatibility.
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